chaoticidealism ([info]chaoticidealism) wrote,
@ 2008-06-05 23:13:00
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Mind Reading & Minority Neurology
When it comes to nonverbal communication, NTs are wonderful at "mind reading" by picking up on a lot of little cues from the person they're watching and listening to. A nonverbal communication deficiency is a big part of an autism diagnosis.

"Autistics can't understand other people's minds." True? Or is a general statement better: "People have a hard time understanding minds unlike their own."?

That would make NTs just as impaired as autistics are--when interacting with autistics.

If you're NT, you'll be good at understanding other NTs, not so good at understanding autistics. You might easily make the assumption, "Autistics can't understand other people's minds." I don't think you can really be blamed for that. It's just the effect of being in the majority, and the way people's minds are made to form systems of ideas. You encounter certain combinations of things repeatedly, and out of those you form a general schema that you apply to other similar things afterwards.

If the people you meet have similar minds to yours, you form a schema that starts with your own mind and branches easily out to other minds. As a result you can "read" them very well. So you assume that you can read everyone's mind, because most of your experiences confirm that idea. When you meet an autistic person, you start out by misreading them as though they were typical; then after a little more interaction you start adjusting your schema to include a different variety of human. The problem is that you've had a huge amount of practice with NT minds, but only one experience with an autistic mind; so you are relatively inefficient at this task. To add to the complications, the autistic cannot easily read your mind because he isn't nearly as good at forming schemas as you are, and because his own mind doesn't give him a good example of NT to work from, as yours does.

That "majority effect" is big! The minority naturally has trouble both being understood and understanding, and as a result, the statment, "Autistic people have trouble understanding other people's minds" is true for 149 out of 150 "other people"! It's pretty easy for an NT to form a schema based on that, and it'll be true most of the time. But there's the failing of general schemas: The assumption that "other people" means all other people, rather than most other people, is crucial. It means you attribute the communication error entirely to the autistic, rather than realizing that part of the effect is due to the differences between him and most others.

This is a communication gap that forms when a large majority interacts with isolated members of a small minority.

But there is some truth to the idea that autistic people are worse at mind-reading even between autistics, when the neurology barrier isn't as much in play. Autistic people, on average, focus on detail. That means less schema-formation, and though autistic people do seem to understand each other better than they understand NTs, most (?) of us don't tend to generalize as much as NTs do. So we see individual autistics, and the diversity of the Spectrum, rather than a general "other autistic person". On top of that is the very real diversity of the spectrum--it's harder to generalize from autistic to autistic than from NT to NT, even if you want to do it. And autistic people generally have more experiences with NTs than with other autistic people; so they have their own minds to draw from, but not as many other minds to apply the template to. So you have a person who doesn't generalize too much, doesn't have many similar people to generalize to, and those he does have tend to be more diverse than the ones an NT would have.

Individual autistics may vary. As always.

And of course there are pitfalls to this sort of mind-reading--the dangers of applying a general template to a specific individual are obvious. Too general, and you will misinterpret your subject. You might do so even if your schema isn't very general, if your subject is far enough down the autistic Bell curve. And at the extremes of generalization, you might form a stereotype that could even run to prejudice. So be careful--understanding other autistics better than you understand NTs doesn't mean you understand them perfectly, nor that you can assume that you know what they are feeling or thinking. No one can ever understand another person's mind; he can only understand his own, then extrapolate from that based on new information from the person himself. The more you study your subject, the better you will learn him.

Still, the mind-reading between autistic people is rather striking--not as strong as NT mind-reading, but definitely there.




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Wow!
(Anonymous)
2008-06-06 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Wow! That was really well written. I have often tried to describe this and had trouble with that. This describes it very well.
Thanks, Ed

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-06 11:12 pm UTC (link)
Also, how many autistics interact with a large number of other autistics from birth through adulthood? NTs when young are not as good at extrapolating on other people's emotions and body language, primarily because they haven't had much practice yet. While autistics often end up interacting with other autistics (such as in classrooms, or a relative on the spectrum), I cannot say that I've ever heard of someone who grew up in a nearly entirely autistic environment from when very young and interacting with a lot of people.

There are exceptions both ways to this rule, for both NTs and autistics. For instance, I've known a number of NTs who just absolutely seem either incapable or stubbornly unwilling to put themselves into my perspective or understanding, but I've also known a number of NTs who are great at this reaching into another person's perspective thing, and my being autistic makes no difference to that. Also, while there are plenty of autistics who have a hard time with understanding NTs, there are also those of us who are pretty good at it.

Another thing to consider is the UNWILLINGNESS to consider another person's perspective or feelings. This can be out of pure selfishness of course, but when your points of view, perspectives, and feelings are constantly discounted from a young age, mocked or largely ignored, you're probably going to be inclined to be bitter about it. When I was young, I was quite prejudiced against NTs for these real problems, that I started to see problems where there were none, and to generalize these behaviors to the NT population. I considered a complete lack of understanding for other people's perspectives/feelings as an NT trait (though, since at age 6 I'd never heard the term NT, I thought the word "normal people"). Nowadays I see better and realize this is a universal human flaw, even for those of us mostly good at it, rather than an NT flaw.

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Growing up in an autistic environment
[info]autisticbfh.blogspot.com
2008-06-07 05:43 pm UTC (link)
I would describe myself as having grown up in an autistic environment; several of my family members are either autistic or close to it, and when I was a child, I read many books that had autistic characters (such as A Wrinkle in Time) or were about autistic scientists (Archimedes, Einstein, Curie).

So, when I got outside of that family environment (1) I thought that people in general were a lot more autistic than they really are; and (2) I thought that I understood other people a lot better than I really did; and (3) I thought that other people understood me a lot better than they really did.

It took me many years to realize how far off the mark my generalizations were.

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(Anonymous)
2008-06-13 11:11 pm UTC (link)
chaoticidealism - you read my mind! lol. (perhaps not in the same way as you meant here)

abfh - very interesting perspective, and thanks for sharing that. I had though that it would be ideal to grow up in an autistic environment, but now I don't know what to think about it.

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